Comments on: Goal Setting Mistakes: 4. Moving Targets http://beanoriginal.net/goal-setting-mistakes-4-moving-targets/ feeding your inner rebel Wed, 08 Feb 2012 12:41:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: My Get Things Done List » Blog Archive » Review week 50; goals, blog and GTD [How to be an Original] http://beanoriginal.net/goal-setting-mistakes-4-moving-targets/#comment-704 My Get Things Done List » Blog Archive » Review week 50; goals, blog and GTD [How to be an Original] Tue, 20 Oct 2009 04:22:32 +0000 http://blog.lodewijkvdb.com/2007/12/goal-setting-mistakes-4-moving-targets.html#comment-704 [...] as I wrote in my article on Moving Targets, this goal is done. There’s some more work to do, but it’s not part of the original [...] [...] as I wrote in my article on Moving Targets, this goal is done. There’s some more work to do, but it’s not part of the original [...]

]]> By: Christine O'Kelly http://beanoriginal.net/goal-setting-mistakes-4-moving-targets/#comment-701 Christine O'Kelly Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:03:19 +0000 http://blog.lodewijkvdb.com/2007/12/goal-setting-mistakes-4-moving-targets.html#comment-701 I agree with Albert - this is an excellent series! I think that setting goals based on the desired RESULT is critical. For example, some businesses that I work with will set a goal of "add 3 blog posts per week" but what they really want is to make more sales. What if there is a more effective use of their time and resources than adding 3 blog post per week? What happens when you find that the action plan doesn't produce the desired results? You've got to be able to change strategies within the goal as needed without changing the desired result. It is amazing to me how many people continue to do something that is not producing results simply because they set a goal based on the wrong metric. Christine I agree with Albert – this is an excellent series! I think that setting goals based on the desired RESULT is critical. For example, some businesses that I work with will set a goal of “add 3 blog posts per week” but what they really want is to make more sales. What if there is a more effective use of their time and resources than adding 3 blog post per week? What happens when you find that the action plan doesn’t produce the desired results? You’ve got to be able to change strategies within the goal as needed without changing the desired result.

It is amazing to me how many people continue to do something that is not producing results simply because they set a goal based on the wrong metric.

Christine

]]> By: Lodewijkvdb http://beanoriginal.net/goal-setting-mistakes-4-moving-targets/#comment-699 Lodewijkvdb Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:37:50 +0000 http://blog.lodewijkvdb.com/2007/12/goal-setting-mistakes-4-moving-targets.html#comment-699 Neko Case » Sure they can, and that's probably the way to go. It's just that I did not know beforehand that the target was going to shift. From where I am now, I will see it as two different projects. Tom » Small projects? Not unnecessarily...but projects with a defined success criterion. Now it's easy to define what sub-projects I could've created, <em>now I know what I know.</em> The point is, I did not know this in detail when I started out. The picture of the finished garden got prettier and prettier as I went along. It's a good lesson, since I'm on the verge of starting a big IT-project at the company we both work for ;) Albert | UrbanMonk.Net » Thanks! It amazes me everytime that some lessons cannot be learned, before you have the context to understand them. Failing this, while I have the knowledge, has taught me why it is important, and how easy you fall into doing it wrong. Imagine how depressing it must be if you're not consciously evaluating this stuff and keep on failing goals, time and again. Neko Case » Sure they can, and that’s probably the way to go. It’s just that I did not know beforehand that the target was going to shift. From where I am now, I will see it as two different projects.

Tom » Small projects? Not unnecessarily…but projects with a defined success criterion. Now it’s easy to define what sub-projects I could’ve created, now I know what I know. The point is, I did not know this in detail when I started out. The picture of the finished garden got prettier and prettier as I went along. It’s a good lesson, since I’m on the verge of starting a big IT-project at the company we both work for ;)

Albert | UrbanMonk.Net » Thanks! It amazes me everytime that some lessons cannot be learned, before you have the context to understand them. Failing this, while I have the knowledge, has taught me why it is important, and how easy you fall into doing it wrong. Imagine how depressing it must be if you’re not consciously evaluating this stuff and keep on failing goals, time and again.

]]> By: Albert | UrbanMonk.Net http://beanoriginal.net/goal-setting-mistakes-4-moving-targets/#comment-700 Albert | UrbanMonk.Net Tue, 11 Dec 2007 07:58:12 +0000 http://blog.lodewijkvdb.com/2007/12/goal-setting-mistakes-4-moving-targets.html#comment-700 I really enjoy this series! Every great author like Napoleon Hill, for instance, is advocating a set, quantifiable goal, and you've described why. Cheers, Albert | <a href="http://www.urbanmonk.net" rel="nofollow">UrbanMonk.Net</a> Modern personal development, entwined with ancient spirituality. I really enjoy this series! Every great author like Napoleon Hill, for instance, is advocating a set, quantifiable goal, and you’ve described why.

Cheers,
Albert | UrbanMonk.Net
Modern personal development, entwined with ancient spirituality.

]]> By: Tom http://beanoriginal.net/goal-setting-mistakes-4-moving-targets/#comment-703 Tom Mon, 10 Dec 2007 13:04:52 +0000 http://blog.lodewijkvdb.com/2007/12/goal-setting-mistakes-4-moving-targets.html#comment-703 A good practice when dealing with larger (somewhat overlapping) projects is to create a program for several smaller projects. Thus, by creating a program to "redo the garden" you can set several smaller projects with smaller, separately defined goals. Project: front garden Project: back garden Project: garden safe for children project: block ugly building You could set different targets and scopes for these sub projects, while tracking progress on both individual projects and on the "Program". Also when there is a need to re-define a project you can track the impact it may have on related projects. In your case you do not get a review from your superior, so there is no need, besides personal ones, to achieve this goal within the given time frame and/or budget. You surely would want to though ;-) Besides, it should only be a relatively small project. Right? ;-) A good practice when dealing with larger (somewhat overlapping) projects is to create a program for several smaller projects. Thus, by creating a program to “redo the garden” you can set several smaller projects with smaller, separately defined goals.
Project: front garden
Project: back garden
Project: garden safe for children
project: block ugly building
You could set different targets and scopes for these sub projects, while tracking progress on both individual projects and on the “Program”. Also when there is a need to re-define a project you can track the impact it may have on related projects.

In your case you do not get a review from your superior, so there is no need, besides personal ones, to achieve this goal within the given time frame and/or budget. You surely would want to though ;-) Besides, it should only be a relatively small project. Right? ;-)

]]> By: Neko Case http://beanoriginal.net/goal-setting-mistakes-4-moving-targets/#comment-702 Neko Case Mon, 10 Dec 2007 10:40:42 +0000 http://blog.lodewijkvdb.com/2007/12/goal-setting-mistakes-4-moving-targets.html#comment-702 Can't the 2 objectives be considered as two separate goals?. Can’t the 2 objectives be considered as two separate goals?.

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