Comments on: How hard can it be, to be me (4); test for authenticity http://beanoriginal.net/how_hard_can_it_3/ feeding your inner rebel Tue, 15 May 2012 05:18:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Diana Loper http://beanoriginal.net/how_hard_can_it_3/#comment-20 Diana Loper Thu, 25 Dec 2008 06:21:50 +0000 http://lodewijkvdb.com/blog/2007/04/how-hard-can-it-be-to-be-me-4-test-for-authenticity/#comment-20 I have another question Lodewijk. I have a question for you from a good friend of mine. she is a woman child at the age of 43 years old and needs to know the remedy or the solution to overcoming and the putting away of feelings and the old information obsorbed over the years that are holding her back from growing that has been wrong she admits and acknowledges. can't find friend that will gladly accept hugs and kisses when she is down knowingly that this is good for the emotional part of her. I alreay know to think it be it, but do I think about it all the time? do I have to consume my time thinking and acting to be the person I want to be or do I need to make plans and or goals to reach it? thanks and yes I like the blog. keep it up... I have another question Lodewijk. I have a question for you from a good friend of mine. she is a woman child at the age of 43 years old and needs to know the remedy or the solution to overcoming and the putting away of feelings and the old information obsorbed over the years that are holding her back from growing that has been wrong she admits and acknowledges. can’t find friend that will gladly accept hugs and kisses when she is down knowingly that this is good for the emotional part of her. I alreay know to think it be it, but do I think about it all the time? do I have to consume my time thinking and acting to be the person I want to be or do I need to make plans and or goals to reach it? thanks and yes I like the blog. keep it up…

]]> By: Lodewijk van den Broek http://beanoriginal.net/how_hard_can_it_3/#comment-19 Lodewijk van den Broek Sat, 28 Apr 2007 22:54:27 +0000 http://lodewijkvdb.com/blog/2007/04/how-hard-can-it-be-to-be-me-4-test-for-authenticity/#comment-19 I think you hit the nail on the head, Clay. I like how you formulate it. Adding value to others as a possibly unintended by-product. If you take care of being authentic yourself and succeed, you are bound to add value to others. I like that :) I think you hit the nail on the head, Clay. I like how you formulate it. Adding value to others as a possibly unintended by-product. If you take care of being authentic yourself and succeed, you are bound to add value to others. I like that :)

]]> By: Clay Thurmond http://beanoriginal.net/how_hard_can_it_3/#comment-18 Clay Thurmond Sat, 28 Apr 2007 06:54:13 +0000 http://lodewijkvdb.com/blog/2007/04/how-hard-can-it-be-to-be-me-4-test-for-authenticity/#comment-18 If I am reading this correctly, Lodewijk, you were saying that adding value or meaning to others' lives is just one of your criterions for determining your own authenticity, a personal standard, not a universal one as Morten seems to suggest. I think by living an authentic life, one can't help but add value or meaning to others lives. It may not be an intended result, but "just" a by-product. Artists live for their art and that provides inspiration and meaning to those who appreciate it. Rilke's poetry is an example for me, in and out of translation. The monk (or nun) who goes off to a cave or mountain top becomes an inspiration to others although that likely was not their original intent. I think we are just too social, too interconnected to be able to avoid adding value to others' lives. I agree with Morten that we have to help ourselves first before we can help others; without that there is no capactiy to help. Not deriving meaning in one's own life, I doubt one could add value or meaning to anyone else's. Keep up the blog. I've barely scratched it and am anxious to read it all and follow it. If I am reading this correctly, Lodewijk, you were saying that adding value or meaning to others’ lives is just one of your criterions for determining your own authenticity, a personal standard, not a universal one as Morten seems to suggest.

I think by living an authentic life, one can’t help but add value or meaning to others lives. It may not be an intended result, but “just” a by-product. Artists live for their art and that provides inspiration and meaning to those who appreciate it. Rilke’s poetry is an example for me, in and out of translation. The monk (or nun) who goes off to a cave or mountain top becomes an inspiration to others although that likely was not their original intent. I think we are just too social, too interconnected to be able to avoid adding value to others’ lives. I agree with Morten that we have to help ourselves first before we can help others; without that there is no capactiy to help. Not deriving meaning in one’s own life, I doubt one could add value or meaning to anyone else’s.

Keep up the blog. I’ve barely scratched it and am anxious to read it all and follow it.

]]> By: Lodewijk van den Broek http://beanoriginal.net/how_hard_can_it_3/#comment-17 Lodewijk van den Broek Thu, 26 Apr 2007 17:54:49 +0000 http://lodewijkvdb.com/blog/2007/04/how-hard-can-it-be-to-be-me-4-test-for-authenticity/#comment-17 Hi Morten, Thanks for the feedback. I'm glad that you like my blog. Your comments about bringing meaning to others made me think. I can come up with a couple of people that may not need to add value to others, as they derive happiness from within or from their works. They are painters, sculptors, monks and the likes. I can imagine that a painter gets all his fulfillment from the work he creates. Or a monk getting all his fulfillment from the meditation he does. To me it does seem lonely however... Hi Morten,

Thanks for the feedback. I’m glad that you like my blog. Your comments about bringing meaning to others made me think. I can come up with a couple of people that may not need to add value to others, as they derive happiness from within or from their works. They are painters, sculptors, monks and the likes.

I can imagine that a painter gets all his fulfillment from the work he creates. Or a monk getting all his fulfillment from the meditation he does. To me it does seem lonely however…

]]> By: Morten Palsgaard http://beanoriginal.net/how_hard_can_it_3/#comment-16 Morten Palsgaard Thu, 26 Apr 2007 13:54:35 +0000 http://lodewijkvdb.com/blog/2007/04/how-hard-can-it-be-to-be-me-4-test-for-authenticity/#comment-16 Hi Lodewijk, I like your blog, and to answer your question: yes, it does bring value and meaning to me. I have only read the "How hard can it be,..." series, I like them a lot. Particular Heidegger words was exactly the answer to a question I have asked myself many times. How much can we expect from life? How happy can we "demand" to be? Should we settle for something less than perfect (what ever that is?)If we do not settle for less than perfect, do we risk ending up unsatisfied and unhappy? I do not agree with your definition of meaningful life though. I think you place too much emphasis on bringing meaning and value to others. I know (I think) that humans are social animals that needs the company of others - to some extent anyway, but I have no doubt that you can live a meaningful life without adding value to other peoples lives. And as they say in the airplane: always put your own mask on before helping others. Wkr, and keep posing, Morten Hi Lodewijk,
I like your blog, and to answer your question: yes, it does bring value and meaning to me. I have only read the “How hard can it be,…” series, I like them a lot. Particular Heidegger words was exactly the answer to a question I have asked myself many times. How much can we expect from life? How happy can we “demand” to be? Should we settle for something less than perfect (what ever that is?)If we do not settle for less than perfect, do we risk ending up unsatisfied and unhappy?
I do not agree with your definition of meaningful life though. I think you place too much emphasis on bringing meaning and value to others. I know (I think) that humans are social animals that needs the company of others – to some extent anyway, but I have no doubt that you can live a meaningful life without adding value to other peoples lives.
And as they say in the airplane: always put your own mask on before helping others.

Wkr, and keep posing,
Morten

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